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  Will apostates burn in Gehenna???

  by kid-A in

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  i seem to recall the wts teaching this many years ago.

  the idea was that "apostacy" was the ultimate, unforgiveable sin, because it was.

  tantamount to "sinning against the holy spirit".....does anyone recall hearing this idea, that "apostates", along with our buddy satan, will suffer.

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  Organizing The Former Jehovah's Witnesses Movement

  by The wanderer in

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  organizing the movement

  an individual posted an interesting thread regarding organizing .

  the "apostate" movement and it seemed to get some positive .

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  Organizing the movement

  An individual posted an interesting thread regarding organizing
  the "apostate" movement and it seemed to get some positive
  feedback.

  Thoughts going in a similar direction

  Personally, my own thoughts would be for a documentary or movie to expose
  the Watchtower Society in the same way that the Mormons have received
  recent media exposure.

  Thousands of individuals on this board

  There is no reason why something cannot be done to help remedy the
  losses and pain that many on this board have had to endure regarding
  this corporation. We are many, but we need to become one.

  Brainstorming

  This thread is a very important issue, so can individuals please share
  their thoughts and ideas [please be realistic] regarding some kind
  of movement or organization.

  Respectfully,

  The Wanderer
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  We've Reached Celebrity Status!!!

  by Lady Liberty in

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  well i am convinced i know how the stars are treated.

  being considered an apostate by just about everyone in the circuit, and now, tonight i find that the neighboring circuit is talking of our apostacy as well.

  (mind you we are not d'fd, nor have we d'ad ourselves.

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  Is it time for apostasy to get organised?

  by nicolaou in

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  i like things the way they are right now.

  the watchtower are never sure which direction the next 'assualt' will come from and we often get the jump on them.

  but i was wondering if, in addition to all the solo efforts, it might be time to set up something a little more permanent.. i know that my disfellowshipping is only a matter of time - perhaps months - and when it happens i'll have the freedom to act in a way that i cannot risk at present.

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  Organizing the Former Jehovah's Witness Movement

  Personally, this is an exceptional idea not only for the United Kingdom but for
  the United States as well. I would like to be apart of this movement in part-
  icular anything that would establish a media or Hollywood presence regarding
  this issue.

  Thousands of Individuals on this board

  Consider the thousands of individuals on this board who could make a contribution
  regarding this issue. With just a little motivation, and the right touch this move-
  ment can get off the ground.

  Respectfully,

  The Wanderer
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  Pictures from "The Grave"

  by monkeyshine in

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  i visited pittsburgh over the weekend and i had to see this for myself.

  it was kind of weird though once i got there.

  it didn't feel like i thought it would.

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  Dig him up, dust him off, and then ask him..."Why the pyramid"?

  Respectfully,

  The Wanderer
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  Just sent my friend the NGO letter

  by sinis in

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  so, what are your thoughts on this.

  my ms friend who was down a few weeks ago is a great guy, he just accepts the wts hook line and sinker.

  i asked him about the ngo thing and he knew nothing of it.

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  How he will respond

  It depends on how open-minded he is or is willing to be. Do not underestimate
  the brainwashing power of the Watchtower Society. My experience regarding
  the same scenario was that both individuals became hostile and offended and
  both were lost .

  The possiblity does exist

  I am not going to say that he will now become your ex-friend because you
  showed him the document from the United Nations. Just keep in mind that
  this scenario can go either way.

  Respectfully,

  The Wanderer

  http://www.un.org/dpi/ngosection/pdfs/watchtower.pdf
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  Forgiving the Watchtower Society

  by The wanderer in

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  being one of jehovah's witnesses

  after having been one of jehovah's witnesses either through being raised as one or getting the "truth" from the preaching work, some have reverted back to the organization as one of the "lost sheep".forgive us our trespasses .

  it is well documented what the watchtower has done regarding the issues of.

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  Being One of Jehovah's Witnesses

  After having been one of Jehovah's Witnesses either through being raised as one or getting the "truth" from the preaching work, some have reverted back to the organization as one of the "lost sheep".

  Forgive Us Our Trespasses

  It is well documented what the Watchtower has done regarding the issues of
  blood transfusions, hiding sexual abuse, involvement with the United Nations
  and so forth, however, there are those that still want to go back to the "truth."

  Why do they do it?

  1.) Is it because they still have friends, family members or miss the structure and
  " security" that the organization provided?
  
  2).Is there some kind of doubt that perhaps it maybe God's organization after all?
  
  3.)Or is it comparable to smoking "I know smoking will kill me, but after all, I enjoy it!"

  Please provide your perspective and point of view regarding this matter.

  Respectfully,

  The Wanderer
  
  
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  Watchtower and Jonestown Drawing Comparisons

  by The wanderer in

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  paradise

  when first meeting jehovah's witnesses, the message is one of hope .

  and peace.

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  Paradise

  When first meeting Jehovah's Witnesses, the message is one of hope
  and peace. Promises of God's Kingdom restoring mankind into perfect
  peace and harmony, coupled with artists rendering of a paradise like
  world where even the animals are at peace with mankind.

  Paradise Becomes a Prison

  Only after having spent some years in "spiritual paradise" some individuals
  come to discover it is little more than a corporation filling its pockets for
  profits. Rules and regulations must be followed in order to gain the groups
  approval. Anything, that deviates from what the "higher ups" have layed
  down as law, gains immediate discipline and disapproval.

  Jones Town

  In 1978, the now deceased and infamous Jim Jones of the Peoples Temple
  ordered more than 900 of his followers to drink cyanide-poisoned punch.
  Sadly, most of his followers did so willingly, with only a few opting not too.

  Questions about the Watchtower

  Even though the Watchtower Society does not endorse such wholesale
  mass murder suicide pacts, there has been discussion regarding the
  emotional and psychological scars done by the Society. Even though
  their are no bodies littered in one given area, how does the Watch-
  tower measure up to Jonestown? The scars maybe invisible but the pain
  is all too real.

  Please add your commentary to expand upon this discussion.

  Respectfully,

  The Wanderer
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  I'd appreciate some insight on what my mother claims was said at assembly

  by free2beme in

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  okay, well my mother called this evening and was all emotional about her one day assembly.

  i was shocked she brought it up, as we just do not mention the religion anymore, but lately little things keep getting said at her conventions and assemblies that seem to be making this line something she wants to cross more these days.

  what she brought up, was something i had not heard mentioned on here and i wanted some insight from people who actually heard it or knew more about it.

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  Going to the Assembly

  If someone who is in "good" status can make
  the trip to the one day assembly please do
  so. And, let's get to the bottom of this.

  Just remember to hold your nose!

  Respectfully,

  The Wanderer
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  I'd appreciate some insight on what my mother claims was said at assembly

  by free2beme in

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  okay, well my mother called this evening and was all emotional about her one day assembly.

  i was shocked she brought it up, as we just do not mention the religion anymore, but lately little things keep getting said at her conventions and assemblies that seem to be making this line something she wants to cross more these days.

  what she brought up, was something i had not heard mentioned on here and i wanted some insight from people who actually heard it or knew more about it.

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  Specific Questions

  Mom, who exactly is endorsing this "time of the end" position? Where
  is he or she getting this information from? How, do they really know
  or how can this be verified to be true?

  Preaching Work

  If you had 6 million employees distributing millions of pieces of your
  literature each and every month for years on end; would you close
  down the preaching work?

  Respectfully,

  The Wanderer